This post is a Diss Post. IT is going to diss some people. This may piss them off. Wah-Wah too bad. Next time you wanna diss someone, remember, your diss may come back to piss you off. So stop dissing, raging and snarking, and start showing some love peeps. OR the haters are gonna hate on you hating the peeps. Got it? Not likely yo. Cuz you guys are all up in that Geritol and walker crap. We ain't going down li'dat, man. We is a healthy kinda insane in da membrane. If you ain't with it, then don't try to pick it apart, cuz you just an old fart. Word.
Note: We are Not the following individuals: Juan Wilson, Momi Carmona, Chris De Angelo, Andy Parx, But nice try. We would love to have any of them on our staff. Give us a shout out, and we will give you an interview!
The following need not apply: Joan Conrow, Joani Kamiya Rose, Chuck Lasker, Pete Antonson.
We MAY give Luke a shot, as long as he promises to remain passive, and not passive aggressive.
Sad to say, though, we are not hiring any more staff at this time. But, hey, keep trying. You may make our list yet. Its not likely, but keep trying anyway.
Kaua'i Snarklectic Publishing Team
THE REVELATION OF JAY-Z HOLY GRAIL:
You want fame and fortune? You coming up from poverty and now you got this? Yeah, there is a cost to being famous. And this is it. Dedicated to those who diss, rage and snark against this blog. In 8 weeks we have skyrocketed to FIFTY THOUSAND PAGEVIEWS.
They ask why no one comments? Why the hell fuck with perfection? Its perfect, man, there is simply nothing else to add to it. young bloods are sick of Cadaver Actin old fuddy duds trying to smooth down our cool, man. We rock. Not our fault. SO don't be a jealous hater.
Just realize, you are on da back shelf baby there is a new blog in town. And it is owning yours. Learn to love it. Or not. Think about it.
We don't write no twinkie crap. We call it raw and hungry and like it is. Our minds are young and fertile, not old, musty n crusty. You wanna know who we are? We are your neighbors, business owners, and people you work with. That's right. That is what Joan Conrow gave as the reason for allowing anon posting on her blog. And it is the reason we demand non anon posting on ours, and keep ourselves anon.
We hypocrite the hypocrites. We spit it right back in the face of the Fogey Fistie Snarkie set. Put down da crochet, grandma and bust a move! We are the whippersnappers in your crackers, baby. Does this seem a bit odd, and crazy to you? Excelllent!
Our work here is done.
NOTE: THE N-WORD And other objectionable word are removed, and added "peeps" instead. You get the vibe, eyah? Rock on.;
The Popdust Files: Holy Grail, jay-z, justin timberlake, Magna Carta Holy Grail
Is being a famous person fun? In most of Jay-Z’s music it sounds
fun—the “Big Pimpin’” music would lose much of its effect if it took
place at, say, a Wal-Mart—but on his latest, “Holy Grail,” Jay makes a
late grab at the Hollywood sadcore that’s previously been the domain of
Drake. While he’s still celebrating the good life, Jay seems ambivalent
whether being a celebrity is good for him as a person. Let’s run down
the pros and cons of being the world’s most famous rapper, as outlined
by “Holy Grail.”PRO: Your infant daughter is already dissing haters at a third-grade level:
Blue told me remind you *bleeped*CON: You may end up like MC Hammer:
Fuck that shit y’all talking bout
Caught up in all these lights and camerasPRO: You may find yourself infatuated by all the attention:
But look what that shit did to Hammer
Goddammit it I like itCON: You may also end up like Mike Tyson:
Bright lights is enticing
But look what it did to TysonCON: You may find yourself anthropomorphizing the concept of fame, turning it into a devilish seductress straight out of a detective novel:
All that money in one night
Thirty mill for one fight
But soon as all the money blows
All the pigeons take flight
Fuck the fame, keep cheating on mePRO: You have enough clout to talk Courtney Love into letting you sample Nirvana:
What I do, I took her back, fool me twice
That’s my bad, I can’t even blame her for that
Enough to make me wanna *bleep*
And we all just entertainersCON: The demands of fans and media make it virtually impossible to lead a normal life:
And we’re stupid and contagious
And we all just entertainers
Now I got tattoos on my body, psycho bitches in my lobbyPRO: You can say dumb stuff like “I’m going to stop being famous” while knowing no one will hold you to it:
I got haters in the paper, photo shoots with paparazzi
Can’t even take my daughter for a walk
See ‘em by the corner store, I feel like I’m cornered off
Enough is enough, I’m calling this offPRO: You get to hang in fancy cars with add-ons denied to the common man :
Who the fuck I’m kidding though
I’m getting high, sitting lowPRO: Your job isn’t actually that hard compared to the average American’s:
Sliding by in that big body
Curtains all in my window
This fame hurt but this chain works
I think back you asked the same personPRO: The good things in your life generally outweigh the bad:
If this is all you had to deal with
"Peeps"*bleep* deal with, this shit ain’t work
This light work
Camera snapping, my eyes hurt
"Peeps"bleep dying back where I was birthed
Fuck your IRIS and the IRSPRO: You’re not dead yet:
Get the hell up off your high horse
You got the shit that "peeps"*bleep*die for, dry yours
Why you mad, take the good with the bad
Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water
You still alive, still that"peeps"VERDICT: Being famous sucks, but it could be worse: You could be (gasp) not famous!
"peeps" you survived
You still getting bigger "peeps"
Living the life, vanilla wafers
In a villa, illest "peeps"alive
The full lyrics are below. You can listen to the song at the bottom of the post!
[Justin Timberlake]
You’d take the clothes off my back
And I’d let you
You’d steal the food right out my mouth
And I’d watch you eat it
I still don’t know why, why I love you so much, ohh
You curse my name, in spite to put me to shame
Have my laundry in the streets, dirty or clean
Give it up for fame
But I still don’t know why, why I love it so much
And baby, it’s amazing I’m in this maze with you
I just can’t crack your code
One day you screaming your love aloud
The next day you’re so cold
One day you here, one day you there, one day you care
You’re so unfair
Sipping from your cup till it runneth over
Holy Grail
[Jay-Z]
Blue told me remind you n--s
Fuck that shit y’all talking bout
I’m the n--a
Caught up in all these lights and cameras
But look what that shit did to Hammer
Goddammit it I like it
Bright lights is enticing
But look what it did to Tyson
All that money in one night
Thirty mill for one fight
But soon as all the money blows
All the pigeons take flight
Fuck the fame, keep cheating on me
What I do, I took her back, fool me twice
That’s my bad, I can’t even blame her for that
Enough to make me wanna m----r
Momma please just get my bail
I know nobody to blame
Kurt Cobain, I did it to myself
[Both]
And we all just entertainers
And we’re stupid and contagious
And we all just entertainers
[Justin Timberlake]
And baby, it’s amazing I’m in this maze with you
I just can’t crack your code
One day you screaming your love aloud
The next day you’re so cold
One day you here, one day you there, one day you care
You’re so unfair
Sipping from your cup till it runneth over
Holy Grail
[Jay-Z]
Now I got tattoos on my body, psycho bitches in my lobby
I got haters in the paper, photo shoots with paparazzi
Can’t even take my daughter for a walk
See ‘em by the corner store, I feel like I’m cornered off
Enough is enough, I’m calling this off
Who the fuck I’m kidding though
I’m getting high, sitting low
Sliding by in that big body
Curtains all in my window
This fame hurt but this chain works
I think back you asked the same person
If this is all you had to deal with
Nigga deal with, this shit ain’t work
This light work
Camera snapping, my eyes hurt
Niggas dying back where I was birthed
Fuck your IRIS and the IRS
Get the hell up off your high horse
You got the shit that n---s die for, dry yours
Why you mad, take the good with the bad
Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water
You still alive, still that n---a
N---a you survived
You still getting bigger n---a
Living the life, vanilla wafers
In a villa, illest n---a alive
Michael Jackson’s Thriller
[Justin Timberlake]
And baby, it’s amazing I’m in this maze with you
I just can’t crack your code
One day you screaming your love aloud
The next day you’re so cold
One day you here, one day you there, one day you care
You’re so unfair
Sipping from your cup till it runneth over
Holy Grail
You get the air out my lungs whenever you need it
And you take the blade right out my heart
Just so you can watch me bleeding
I still don’t know why
Why I love you so much, yeah
And you play this game in spite to drive me insane
I got it tattooed on my sleeve forever in ink with guess whose name
But I still don’t know why
Why our love is so much
And baby, it’s amazing I’m in this maze with you
I just can’t crack your code
One day you screaming your love aloud
The next day you’re so cold
One day you here, one day you there, one day you care
You’re so unfair
Sipping from your cup till it runneth over
Holy Grail
OUR MEATY EPIC POST: Puleu Included
Jay Z's Holy Grail, and every WORD of this is dedicated to Joan Conrow, The Epic Queen of Mean and Snark, and her Fistee Milyun Dollar Snarkies. Joan accused US of Stealing HER name. Really? Where? What name? This blog is called Kauai Snarklectic. This blog was created as a snark, rage, diss and rant blog. It certainly wasn't created for Joan. It was created for us. Because we said so. We Invented that name. Its ours. Its an epic name that no one has ever come up with ever before. It is also legally copyrighted, unlike Joans blog name. Hint: We are going to be a .com soon, AND get a donation button too! We figured with 50 thousand hits on our blog now, we could at least make a buck a hit and get rich. Why not? Naw, on second though that sounds way too much like work. And we prefer to play.
Joan sure as hell didn't come up with it. As for the name Kauai, Joan sure as hell didn't invent that name either. And she sure as FUCK don't own that name either. As for the phonetic..."clectic", well we bet every dime of Joan's blog donation money that wasn't invented by Joan Conrow wither, now is it "Hers". So, in essence, Joan, as usual is really confused. On many things. Joan also mentions, or her readers do as well, if you can call them that, since they can't read disclaimers about our blog.
Reminds us of when Kim Taylor Reese *a man, by the way*, decided that the pics he took of basic hula kahiko poses were HIS copywriter stuff. Eyah, right. Pissed off a FUCKTON of people. This is Joan Conrows logic as well. Figures. Both exploit the culture. Yeah we went here. Go tell Reese what we said. Link to this blog. Go ahead. Knock yourself out man, rock on with your bad self. Yeah, he so did that. He pulled a Joan Conrow. Oops, his bad, and now, Joan's bad.
Joan also claims the word "writer" and "reporter" as only belonging to her as well. We believe the only word that should have Joan Conrow as its definition in any dictionary, Urban, Suburban, and any in-between is the word "Snarkist". We agree, Joan Conrow personifies that word. Epically , totally and completely. He (Reese) knows he was wrong, and Joan knows she is wrong.
But her silly little anon acolytes will defend her to their last breath. Which, judging by the average age of most of her posters, at over the age of ninety, and the uncool ninety, you know the kind who hate hippies and pine for the good old days before segregation.
Our blog states ad nauseum that we have nothing to do with Dustin Barcas campaign. We like him, want him to win for Mayor, and as a free thinking citizen we reserve the right to support any body we want to on our blog. So, given Joan Conrows reasoning, any candidate that she or her Snarkie Fistees support, means, that each and everyone of those sup[pi9orters speaks for, is endorsed by, and is recognized by those campaigns of those individuals that they endorse.
Gee, really? Perhaps Joan should call up those campaign headquarters and remind them that she is writing in favor of them, and could they keep that in mind. Yanno, like maybe make an official announce ment or something>? What a laugh.
Joans Anonie Snarkie Fistees cannot read to save their lives. We really get such a crack up over them continuing to still try to link US to Barca! We didn't bother putting up our disclaimer on this post, because we aren't making any pro-Barca statements, this blog post is all about us baby, but WTF gives some anon idiot the right to say jack shit about what we support on our blog? Exactly. They got no rights. Not here, on this blog. The only rights they got, is overt on Joans blog, where they can be their nasty black hearted selfish, lying SOBS all they want. They can carry their "patriotic" freak flag, right wing debutante holier then though I'll crush your head mentality until the GMO fed cows come home. But not on this blog. We rule here, not Joan Cornrow, or any of her little geriatric minyuns. We think we will gift them all with a truckload of depends, ben gay, and lots of denture cream. We have an electrified fence around this blog, so enter at your own risk. Don't like it, go and whine on Joans blog. Then we get to pick it apart here.
Isn't blogging Fun?
We also love, how Joan, while she is having her road"trip", tripping through some unknown and undisclosed area of the Mainland, where she so obviously feels comfortable, while she actually disses Kauai and all of those annoying things about Kauai, she never tells us where she is, or who she is with, only that she is somehow making incredibly flowery prose about wherever it is she is. She spends a lot of time discussing the forest floor, and its minutia of flora and fauna, which leaves us to conclude that she may be making some chocolaty goodness way out there in "gods country.". We just hope that she has a hardcopy of her blog to clean up with.
Oooh, we are VELLY VELLY bad! Apparently. In fact, our blog was almost the entire subject matter of Joan's blog today! We have done it, kids. We wanted to see if we could get Joan to rage, and we did. Although its geriatric raging, of the walker variety type, and really lightweight, we are classifying it, and the blogger anons that post on her blog as a "rage".
In fact, it's an epic rage. The best part was when one of her longtime anon blogposters jumped ship and said, "screw this I'm outta here". Welcome back from the chocolaty side, my friend.
We are continually amazed at how the Hypocrisy streams forth from the backside of Joan's blog, just like after drinking a gallon of Chili Pepper Water and Tequila Enema. Ya gotta love a blog author, that allows numerous anon comments, because she is somehow "protecting", her sacred better then thou posters reputations in the community, claiming that most have positions and are business owners, and they wanna ream their fellow Kauaians, so gosh darn it Joan is gonna protect them, but, if WE take the same precautio0ns, Joan and her Snarkie Fistee Minyuns blows a gasket.
Not only that, they really seem very clear on this. How dare we ask people to use their name, and own their words, yet, Joan wants US to us OUR name, and own OUR words! Oh my, my, my, isn't she just the gentile and lovely mainland lady? We wonder, with all of the whining Joan does about kauai why she ever bothers returning. We are sure that her rental, or whatever could go to a nice, deserving local family that actually Needs to be here. Seriously. Maybe we could do an exchange. One ohana that had to leave because they couldn't afford things or make ends meet who had to move to the mainland can move back home where they are from, and Joan Conrow can move back to where SHE is from. Sounds fair to us.
So, what exactly are we kvetching about? We aren't. We just couldn't be happier, because our blog has finally achieved its goal, and that was, to get the ragers to rage. That's what trolls do. And we are trolls. We are reamers, ragers and dissers. Raging and reaming and trolling other trollers. Which is exactly the kind of writing that Joan does, and all of her little Anon Bloggie Fistie Snarkie Minyuns. They are like five year olds saying "I know I am but what are you!", and sticking out their toungues, and then running off giggling, like they are all mature and stuff. Yeah. Real mature. Like when Joan swears on her blog, or allows comments that talk of "24912 supporters wet dreams, or nocturnal emissions. Two things that Joan is decidedly not familiar with at all.
So, shall we show you the epically snarkie blogpost Joan made, while DISSING EVERYTHING about Kauai and praising everything mainland?
That's right, good old patrioctic Joan, flying her freak flag, without fear on the forest floor somewhere is happily letting us all see her true colors, and they sure ain't Mokihana Purple, folks.
So, here, for your veiwing pleasure, is ALL of the raging, snarky chocolaty goodness, that is the Joan Conrow Expedrience!
"Joan Conrow and Crapulence In A Forest"
*we like our title better*
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| Chocolaty goodness, laced with GMO corn, and bees. I n honor of us achieving the Holy grail of Snarking, mentions on Joan Conrows Blog. |
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JOANS CRAP IN DIARRHEA LIGHT BROWN MUCK, OURS IN RED
Monday, June 23, 2014
Musings: Appreciatively
And now we dismiss them as weeds, deem them bad, unsightly, douse them with poison, eradicate them with a vengeance. How do we come to forgot the value of such things?
I have been appreciating small things in this arid climate: sprinkling salt easily from a shaker left always open; keeping chocolate in its original wrapper, at room temperature, secure in the knowledge it will not be chewed or licked by geckos, ants or cockroaches; towels that dry quickly, even when folded in thirds on a rack.
Some of us are learning to appreciate the importance of pollinators, which are celebrated with a national week of their own. This series of amazing photographs gives a glimpse into the incredible beauty of bees, which come in far more colors than the standard yellow and black.
But the recent Cascadia Times article on seed company pesticide use — rehashed in The Garden Island, though TGI staffer Chris D'Angelo did no original research or verification of his own — is nothing more than the standard propaganda now regularly served up by the anti-GMO/anti-"big ag" forces.
As I reported last November, the Media Consortium is funding a series of supposedly independent articles about “pesticide-based pollution, GE food, corporate influence and other important topics” here on Kauai. The Cascadia Times article is the latest.
So far, every report published has reiterated all the same stuff, including the Cascadia Times piece, which also compared pesticide use on Kauai to the mainland.
The reporter came to the alarming conclusion — dutifully and unquestioningly regurgitated by TGI's Chris D'Angelo — that the seed/chem companies are applying restricted use pesticides here at a much greater rate than most mainland farms. But Dr. Steven Savage, a former manager of research at DuPont and a former professor at Colorado State University whose research is cited in the Cascadia Times article, contends the reporter misinterpreted data.
One example is the restricted use pesticide chlorpyrifos, which is applied in much higher quantities to California crops like walnuts, pecans, sweet potatoes and asparagus than Kauai seed corn, according to Savage.
The Cascadia Times article also compared unlike figures, including the total amount of land leased by seed companies today to the total amount of harvested cropland in the U.S. in 2012. It also extrapolated annualized pesticide use on Kauai by using several months of data reported by the seed companies, which they say is not representative of yearly use. That figure was then compared to mainland pesticide data from 2009.
In short, the article used shoddy “research” to achieve sensationalized results. But that didn't prevent Huffington Post, The Progessive and other like-mined media outlets and blogs from lazily reprinting its findings without question, just like TGI.
And just like the other Media Consortium articles, the Cascadian Times piece quotes only those who tout the party line. Like Councilman Gary Hooser, who previously took the chem/seed industry to task for “employ[ing] an army of industry bloggers and social media experts that attack the credibility and integrity of their opponents at every step.”
But I haven't heard Gary or any of his anti-GMO supporters speak against the blog that was started solely for the purpose of attacking me, Luke Evslin, Joni Kamiya-Rose and anyone else who dares to question the movement, its tactics, its funders, its objectives or its fallout.
The Cascadia Times article includes this quote:
“Kaua‘i is Ground Zero for the testing of GMO crops,” said Gary Hooser, a member of the Kaua‘i County Council and an author of Ordinance 960. “It is also Ground Zero for democracy in action.”
So how, exactly, is an active effort to force dissenters to “shut the fuck” up an expression of “democracy in action”? It's not unlike the recent commenter who could only come to one conclusion for my critique of the movement he endorses: I must be in the pay of the seed companies.
No, as I've stated numerous times, I've never gotten a penny or anything else from those folks. My criticism of the anti-GMO movement and its divisive, simplistic, “with us or against us” mentality is based solely on my disdain for any propaganda-promoting totalitarian crowd.
It's bad enough that the anti-GMO movement has discredited itself by taking such an approach. But it's even worse that it seems totally blind to the fact that it is behaving exactly like the chem companies it reviles, pushing those of us who appreciate dialogue and discernment into the fertile landscape of middle ground.
COMMENTS
- I completely agree that TGI is lazy and irresponsible for
republishing articles blindly but its no surprise that people would
think you have a severe slant towards biotech, offering up Dr Steven
Savage as the counter argument.
June 23, 2014 at 8:41 AMI'm trying to understand the critiques that Dr Savage is addressing...."One example is the restricted use pesticide chlorpyrifos, which is applied in much higher quantities to California crops like walnuts, pecans, sweet potatoes and asparagus than Kauai seed corn, according to Savage." So there is higher quantities to CA crops, say...3x amount to HI corn crops x amount, the overall amount used is still the same...
"The Cascadia Times article also compared unlike figures, including the total amount of land leased by seed companies today to the total amount of harvested cropland in the U.S. in 2012. "
If we had the harvested cropland figures for Kauai, wouldn't that make the lbs per acre on Kauai even greater because the number currently incorporating land out of use and fields out of rotation?
"It also extrapolated annualized pesticide use on Kauai by using several months of data reported by the seed companies, which they say is not representative of yearly use. That figure was then compared to mainland pesticide data from 2009."
Do you think that a full year of data would significantly shift the results that the author observed in the analysis?
Where can we really find an unbiased analysis out there, with everyone discrediting everyone....
For the record I think that blog in mention is disgusting and immature.
Anonymous said...
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I'm glad you mentioned the ugly blog that is very crude. Note no one
comments on it, you can only comment by posting your name and they
(whoever it is that writes it), do not use their names.
June 23, 2014 at 8:46 AMNice attempt at stifling thoughtful discussion with meanness.
But it also seems to be a Dustin campaign platform and that is really scary that he allows his campaign materials to be used on a site like that. It speaks volumes and nothing good.
Who writes it?
Anonymous said...
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"Who writes it?"
June 23, 2014 at 8:48 AMNomi Carmona and Juan Wilson, among others.
Anonymous said...
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Anon 8:48am: How do you know? Who/what is your source?
June 23, 2014 at 8:59 AM
Luke
Kambic said...
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The Center for Food Safety sponsored a "home rule" concert
event in Waimea (Big Island) on Saturday. Pretty bizarre to see a
bunch of lawyers from New York intervening in local politics. From
one of the ads on their facebook page:
June 23, 2014 at 9:00 AM"We need to have the power to determine what is right for us on our own islands. We need HOMERULE!
Your voter registration is your ticket in!"
That ad was posted the day after Kamehameha Day.
Anonymous said...
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8:59 -- It's easy to recognize Juan and Nomi's style.
June 23, 2014 at 9:05 AM
Joan
Conrow said...
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To Aria Juliet -- I wasn't offering Dr Savage as the "counter
argument," but pointing out he was disputing the use of his
statistics. Deliberately distorting my reference as a way to attack
and discredit me is yet another example of how your movement
operates.
June 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM
Anonymous said...
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seems Andy contributes possibly too. and since the writers read this
blog,
June 23, 2014 at 9:12 AMif you are proud of your work, own it
Edward
Coll said...
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The "blog with no name" denies anonymity to others while
granting anonymity to themselves. "All animals are equal, but
some animals are more equal than others." -George
Orwell
June 23, 2014 at 11:26 AMPeople that treat themselves fairly but deny such fairness to others are creating an unlevel playing field. They make others out themselves so they have a known target to attack,
while preventing attacks on themselves.
If you post, you have made yourself a potential target for unfair and unknown people. Priceless!
I hope that this election will not be purely based on GMOs, there are many issues facing Kauai.
The Anono Blog is much ado about nothing. Lots of Vicodin, Booze and a sprinkle of Zoloft in that estrogen fueled dither. It will burn out, but it is a real compliment to Joan Conrow, for a group to target her, steal her name and reach deep for velly velly bad things to say.
Sorry Joan, I guess you really are a bogey person.
Perhaps someone can help out, the link below,(if this comment gets on Kauai Eclectic) is a short segment of a recent Council meeting. Did Joann Yukimura set Tim up? She certainly is calm, cool and collected. And, will Tim Bynum be made to apologize to the Council for pencil throwing and arm (fistee) waving antics?
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Anonymous said...
- Well said, Joan.
June 19, 2014 at 11:15 AM
Anonymous said...
- Today's Garden Island has an interesting article about Tim
Bynum's ag tax bill.
June 19, 2014 at 1:35 PM"When Committee Vice Chair JoAnn Yukimura cast the deciding vote, Bynum threw his pencil and stormed out of the room."
He has some behavioral issues.
Anonymous said...
- Hey, looks like after a few days on the mainland, you already
forgot to stop and smell the flowers. I missed your nature
intro.
June 19, 2014 at 2:09 PM
Anonymous said...
- Good and very reliable information about delusional people.
As the saying goes the devil is in the details. Mr. Richard
Ha is a respectable local farmer and have spent decades
farming the land, he knows a lot more than the Google phd's!
June 19, 2014 at 3:03 PM
Anonymous said...
- That is the sad state of affairs we are now in that the issue
itself has become toxic
June 19, 2014 at 3:26 PM
Anonymous said...
- Tim's pencil throwing behavior is a pure example of Fistee
behavior.
June 19, 2014 at 5:36 PMThere has always been veiled violence in Fistee strategy. Chanting mobs and threats to the Mayor.
Just the expression "milyun fists" as inane as it is, suggests less than civil discourse.
How can Gary Hooser, the Big Fister himself even be included in any Council discussions on Ag, Traffic, development etc.? His newly ordained priestlike position as the president of HAPA should exclude him from any discussion or vote.
Jackpot Tim should have clutched his "lead" pencil a little tighter in his Fistee. Shameful. If a person from the public threw a pencil during a Council meeting, the outrage from the Council and public outcry would have ostracized the testifier. But not Tim, he is a Councilman (and as such is not bound by basic manners) and he is allowed to sue the People and get big dough, do a baby tantrum and never apologize...and the beat goes on.
Thank you for the information on the big Island farmers. Eloquent.
Anonymous said...
- Great column Joan. I heard that the anti-GMO guys protested
the Tropic Care event, along with some anti-Pac Rim folks.
Tropic Care is providing some really awesome medical, dental
and vision care for our local residents. Why protest that???
June 19, 2014 at 8:03 PM
Anonymous said...
- What is really sad that on Kauai, and in the rest of the
state for that matter, there has been nothing done in recent
memory to truly support agriculture.
June 19, 2014 at 9:44 PMInstead we see efforts deconstruct and dismantle it....dairies become "unsustainable" in the eyes of a resort....."agronomics" would increase the taxes on ag land for those that do not "raise, harvest or sell crops".
It would be nice to see....for once, someone that would introduce a bill to help ag.....maybe give tax credits to those seeking to improve aging irrigation systems, or support for new farmer marketing and food safety classes or low cost loans to farmers that are established, but need money for capital improvements to get them to the next level of production and profitability.
It would be nice, right? No, it would be right.
Anonymous said...
- Dear Joan, I find it odd that a blog which once appeared as
the voice of balance, and reason, has become a sounding board
for the Biotech-Chemical industry here on Kauai. You, and the
lion's share of your current followers, seem to see no
redeeming value whatsoever to restricting the application of
inordinate amounts of dangerous, restricted use pesticides by
these companies, with experiment results and future corporate
profits, not produce or even seed, being the end goal.
Instead, you appear content to find fault, criticize, and
snipe at those who are seeking to protect the aina and those
who populate it. It seems that you fully buy into the
propaganda promulgated by the "Crop Improvement"
society and industry spokespeople. Have you lost your way,
and your objectivity? Or are you so confident in the
righteousness of your "protect the GMO industry"
cause that you are willing to surround yourself solely by
those who agree with your viewpoints about this issue?
June 20, 2014 at 7:32 AMWell, enjoy your dwindling club meetings. Don't even bother to respond to this comment; I'm gone and I won't be back.
By the way, I know what a combine looks like and I happen to drive on a regular basis to enjoy Kokee and Polihale. Once more, I see no evidence of any substantial corn seed harvest going on. It's time to take your head out of the sand.
Anonymous said...
- 9:44
June 20, 2014 at 8:42 AMThe State and County should stay out of Ag and people's lives.
A kid who wants to farm will find a way to do it. There is land and many land owners who will assist small farmers. It is a cool thing to do for the NS "in" crowd. A real Ag lease from the State or Big land may have some provisions that will make new farmer put the land back to what it was, if their is a failure.Farmers are a sturdy creative breed.
Most ag dedication is for cattle...put up a fence and put in some cows and you get the low property tax rate. I love my cows, but if you really want land, irrigation ditches and water to get torn up....put in some cows. Cows will be Bynum/Hooser next target, anyway. Ranches aren't Ag, in their mind.
The Hana Wai systems that are owned by DLNR are mostly broken...Private ag ditches that are owned by Big land are perfect. Big land takes care of the ditches and the land, because they know they will need for their grand kids...
Get the government out of Ag, their rules will destroy all of us.
Plus you whackos, big land controls most of the water delivery systems....if you push big Ag too hard, they will use their allocated water and dump the rest back to the river.....and then the downline ag will have to figure out how to transmit their water....they may may be landlocked out.
PS Joann Y, your heavy breathing palpitations over a three hundred acre sweet potato farm is misguided....get a few of these 300 acre farms and their economy of scale can wipe out every little farmer who takes his truckload to the Farmers Market...Y'all forget farming may be romantic, but it blood, sweat, tears, weather, tractors that don't start, neighbors that complain, Councilmen who throw pencils, nosy l'il fistees checkin' on your sray application etc that are the real bane of the farmer...oh yeah, forgot about Costco where a person can buy "organic" at 1/3 the cost of Kauai grown.
Anonymous said...
- Really? From all indications recent transplants have their
Agenda set, in destroying decades of building a beautiful
island by instilling fears, lies, and misguided truths about
how we should live. Misgivings are becoming an acceptable
trend and being forced as truths in a sea of constant guise
as false hopes and dreams that are truly not acceptable
June 20, 2014 at 9:23 AM
Anonymous said...
- Yes this new Bynum bill is a looser just like Hooser's 2491/
ordinance 960 is a looser. Time to move on and bring the
community focus back to reality and positive discussions.
Let's not indulge these wacko council members anymore. Move
forward and leave them in the dust. Kauai does not want, need
or appreciate you and your tactics anymore council members
Hooser, Bynum, yukomura, chock, furfaro. We're fed up and
disgusted. The best you can do us move far away from this
kind of issues and hope our memories are short. But I think
you've all just ruined your careers. Time to retire. Good bye
and good riddance to you folks and all your fooled, taken
advantage of, uninformed followers.
June 20, 2014 at 11:27 AM
Anonymous said...
- This blog has continuously pushed for effective laws that
will make a difference. 2491, passed at 3 in the morning at
the insistence of Bynum, Hooser and the rabid red shirts, is
flawed and may be illegal. Just because she calls them as she
sees them doesn't mean that Joan is "protecting"
the GMO industry. Joan described a meeting where she
expressed concerns about the bill and Hooser told her that
enforcement of the law wasn't important. How cynical and
manipulative can you get?
June 20, 2014 at 12:22 PM
Anonymous said...
- So, June 20, 2014 at 8:42 AM, you say get the government out
of AG?
June 20, 2014 at 1:35 PMThis means it would be OK with you if Koloa Rum Company, as so many others do, subvert the AG law that is implemented by County and State?
Is that what you want? Just willy-nilly. The laws in place arenʻt strong enough to protect these lands as it is and you want those voided.
I could agree with you depending on what government it is. If it is the government of the rightful owners of these lands then more than ever government should be overseeing. Everything.
Anonymous said...
- The White House on Friday ordered environmental regulators to
review the effect that pesticides may be having on bees and
other pollinators that have suffered significant losses in
recent years.
June 20, 2014 at 2:12 PMRead more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-06-obama-pesticides-effect-bees.html#jCp
Anonymous said...
- 7:32 Joan's blog, thru her hard work and sharing generosity
has been a sounding board for both pro and con GMO.
June 20, 2014 at 3:04 PMI do not know Joan, but in my opinion she is adamantly against the Seed growers, development and anything that harms the environment, untruthfulness and power grabs.
Her criticism of the Fistee movement may, perhaps be that any temporary victory, in the passing of the anti-GMO law will be circumvented by the courts. Joan may also be a little disturbed at the lies, mob like behavior and intentional "good guy/bad guy" labels put on anyone who questioned the anti-GMO law.
I think Joan's concerns are being validated, Jackpot Tim's meltdown this week at the Council meeting and Big Fist Gary, taking a new position as Gauleiter for a mainland funded environmental group, are two examples of the aftermath of the pre-dawn, mob mentality passage of the anti-Ag bill.
Joan seems to have an understanding on the the core of Kauai. Kauai's people do not like exaggerations, threats or High Nose behavior.
Joan may have been aware that all of the perceived gains of the anti-GMO bill can be forever hindered as Kauai's people vote and kick out certain Council members. A new Council can wipe clean all red shirt gains and as the new Council moves forward they will work hard to get rid of the lingering Bad Taste of the mobs, chanters and waving fisters.
As you read this 7:32 (oh, you will keep reading, for where else are you going to find out what is happening on the island? surely not the newspaper) know that perhaps, Joan could care less if she loses a reader or two. Her words are read by many and she has a platform. She shares credit with the people who bring her evidence or ideas....but on the other hand, your viewpoint is typical of many of the fistees "my way or the highway" attitude......there are many issues that effect Kauai landfill, Police, housing, mayor's gas use, drugs etc....I am appreciative this blog. Thank you Joan Conrow, and keep on writing.
Signed- an Anonymous full blown right wing (Guns for Jesus)long term resident Haole nutjob.
Anonymous said...
- 1:35 Push big land owners out of Ag and voila! you get a
checkerboard (like the North Shore) of little "farms"
owned by a cadre of rich dilettantes.
June 20, 2014 at 3:14 PM
Anonymous said...
- 7:32 AM – I think your cup of Kool aide is empty. Better
fill’er up again. We’re glad you won’t be back too
since there’s no debating with a fanatical drone.
June 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM
Anonymous said...
- Pesticides are all over the stores for people to buy and use
in their homes and yards,please protest the stores, golf
course's use phenomenally more pesticides than agriculture
operations, please protest the golf courses, and resorts use
even more,please protest them too, the building next to the
preschool was just tented with restricted use pesticides and
the Mission Hall for the Waioli Church next to Hanalei school
just got tented. No warning at all for the summer school kids
, please protest, they spray the field where the kids play in
Princeville and they spray Foodland.
June 20, 2014 at 8:10 PMDon't shop there? buy your produce from Marta's Organic farm in Moloaa, toxic Heptachlor legacy from pineapple in the soil there too,
we are surrounded by pesticides with nothing to show in reduction when the land is urbanized.It's enough to make you sick, but then you only thought this was paradise.
Anonymous said...
- 8:10 cites examples of pesticide use on the island and
concludes "it's enough to make you sick." Is it?
That's the unanswered question, isn't it? Toxicologists will
tell you that "the dose is the poison." Ergo, such
nasty carcinogens as benzene, naturally occurring in eggs,
and formaldehyde, naturally present in apples, do no harm to
human health. Do residues of Heptachlor present a danger?
Nowadays, we can measure these things by parts per billion.
And that is the task still to be performed if Kauai wants to
know if it has a problem or not. It's certainly worth doing
and far more worthwhile than adopting feckless legislation or
whining about things that beg for measurement first and
foremost.
June 21, 2014 at 4:56 AM
Anonymous said...
- I'm tired of "Fistees" and suggest that the wing of
that Party favoring a category of agriculture named
"agronomics" be called "Agrognomes", a
term that better harmonizes with the extent of their grip on
reality. Facts from their Party Line like "inordinate
amount of pesticides” blah, blah, blah, and “drenching
the soil”, blah, blah, blah, “We, (some of) the People”
blah, blah, blah “not produce or even seed” blah, blah,
blah will undoubtedly be exposed at trial. So will seed
company real property taxes and all manner of other things in
a suit brought over this bill if it sees the light of day
after August. Only on the Kauai of the Agrognomes would an
industry that has developed and sold seeds to farmers for
decades be considered something apart from agriculture (sorry
6-20; 7:32AM that’s what Pioneer Hi-Bred has been doing
since 1924). Parent seed is a raw material, the factory if
you will, for the production of a final product sold to
farmers for planting, and companies invest heavily in R&D
to remain competitive. They actually sell real products to
90% of the nation’s soy and corn farms- not bullshit like
Agrognomes. I hope the bill’s sponsors looked into transfer
pricing and strategies 101 before hatching this dud. It won’t
be fun if they did not. Oh, but I would really like to have
chlorine banned from the municipal water supply so that the
use of dangerous pesticides is hugely reduced here in ‘Aina
Agrognomia.
June 21, 2014 at 7:05 AM
Anonymous said...
- Just because something grown (or made) here isn’t sold here
is a reason for not granting and ag tax dedication or for
outright banning it? So if a crop is grown specifically for
people who live in Vietnam (or wherever) then no ag
dedication should be given. When did ag dedications become
all about “sustainability” instead of preserving ag jobs
and open land against over development? This is a new
interpretation never envisioned by our leaders who put it
into place.
June 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM
Anonymous said...
- The truth of this whole issue is that the Fistees have no
viable (meaning logical) argument to bring against GMO
farming so they (mis)use pesticides as the issue. The whole
Fistee movement is a hoax…a falsehood to cause fear in the
uninformed. Hooser and Bynum are fakes and liars. These two
are funded by, and are pawns of, the large organic corporate
farms in the mainland who have chosen Kauai as their battle
ground against conventional farming. Kauai is an easy place
to take over since it has a lot of hippies who are willing
bozo’s to support anything that’s not “natural, man”
and who are scared to death of scientific progress. Progress
which has the ability to feed a starving world, to bring good
drinking water to the half of the world that will not have
decent drinking water by 2025.
June 21, 2014 at 8:55 AM
Anonymous said...
- Leadership Kauai started by funding from Cornerstone now
holds 3 council seats, Tim Bynam, Jay F and now Mason. Seems
they are being groomed for getting rid of Agriculture on
Kauai and will lead us right into development.
June 21, 2014 at 11:58 AMAny insights?
Anonymous said...
- What's true is chemicals make money for these companies. The
big Ag companies that use these chemicals will eventually
pollute soil and our drinking water. Check their history in
other locations.
June 21, 2014 at 1:08 PMPolitiks or not....Red shirt or Blue shirt.....chemicals don't care.....they cause harm and the apathy and complacency by the State and County use of pesticides is sickening.
Monsanto reported earnings of $368 million during its first quarter of the 2014 fiscal year, or $0.69 per share, easily beating last year's $339 million figure. Analysts had expected EPS to come in at $0.64. The company attributed its 8.6% rise in profits to higher sales in biotech soybean seeds and its signature herbicide, Roundup; soybean sales alone grew 16% to $267 million.
What's true.......Big Ag..control the food of the world (not feed it)and it needs stupid people working for them in the fields.
We need to clean the slate of ALL of the county council members.
Dr Shibai
Anonymous said...
- This comment section is infested with paid trolls posting
24/7. Too bad it use to be a good community sounding board.
June 21, 2014 at 1:40 PM
Anonymous said...
- 1:40
June 21, 2014 at 8:02 PMThe comment section is highly entertaining.
An anomaly, Joan's structured blog gets a cacophony of peculiar comments... and some not so peculiar, like yours....lighten up. Kauai has many perspectives. Please try to not be so grouchy, embrace the spirit.
Anonymous said...
- We need to clean the slate of ALL of the county council
members.
June 21, 2014 at 10:05 PMI totally agree but another obstacle is not voting the same syndicate families in office. Also, we cannot VOTE for syndicate slaves as our county council.
We must VOTE Kauai's Mafia out of office!
Anonymous said...
- Just don't vote a new mafia in either .
June 22, 2014 at 6:06 AM
Anonymous said...
- What is "cornerstone"?
June 22, 2014 at 7:51 AMLeadership Kauai asked for money years ago and many biz is gave 1000 in support