PEAT TONEDEAFONE (Pete Antonson) OR Pete Andrews, He has been at this since the Superferry, and was kinda a Pioneer of the snarky "Those stupid hippies don't know science" snarky blogpost. This is the guy that runs amok all over the net, posting from the Phillipines. God knows why he comes to Kauai every few months out of the year. One can only speculate. But then our brain get s a rash, so we stopped there
Pete has something to say about everyone and everything. Like Loan Cornrow, he has the answers, and the goods on everyone. And no one can pontificate like this guy
Why we like Peat, is because he does long distance snark, having never met any of his intended targets, he Snarks from afar.
You can tell he thinks he is a pretty good looking guy. Yanno, the pro football type with the haircut, and the mail order er..........ok, we will just stop right there. But I think you can picture the ending to that sentence. I mean hey, lots of guys do that these days. Cuz those darn American women just don't stay home and clean anymore.
BE an ex pat in the Phillipines, that's the way to go. Peat has the right idea. All snarkist should be ex pats. Cuz, its just way safer. Anyways, Pete likes to rag on all kinds of people. Mostly women. Ones he can't have.
He also loves to impress us with his vast knowledge wrapped in the flag of snarkiness. One has to wonder what this guy does for a living.
We weren't actually able to pin that down to any one certain thing.
Like most snarky bloggers, no one actually knows what they do.
I mean, theres "Internet web designers, and writers, and pastors".
Ok, we get it. You don't have like a paycheck nine to five job, you just kinda...wing it, and hope someone hires you?
Maybe its those blog donation buttons that support you guys.
Anyways, like snarkists everywhere, if the people rise up and protest stuff they don't like on their island, he gets his panties in a bunch, just like good old red blooded American football loving ex pats everywhere. Give that man a Budweiser. It does really seem to be the trend with these poeple doesn't it?
I mean if it inst wrapped in the flag, then by gosh b gosh them darn hippies are gonna ruin everything,
Pete has the "you don't understand Science", thing down to a science.
Problem with Pete, is he actually does defame, er defacate, er inflame people with his clueless assumptions about others that post on the Internet.
But more about Garden Island Serial Posters later.
Its Peat's turn now.
Dear friends,
I am puzzled how to respond or not respond to an attack a man named Pete Antonson did of a letter to the editor I wrote, published yesterday, and his today. I stated clear altruistic reasons of my intent being involved with the EIS for Superferry movement, and I'm met with character assassination from him, slamming the website, and not getting his facts right about my background. He could have simply emailed me or called as my contact info is on the site, before publishing a personal attack based on mistaken assumptions about me.
Should I write a letter to the ed again in rebuttal? That seems just perpetuating the negative, or just let his attack and misguided assumptions go?
My ferry fight (TGI's title)
by John Tyler Cragg
I'd like to set the record straight in response to Stan Godes' letter ("I'd like to sail the channel again," Letters, Sept. 27).
Godes, among other things, questions the true intentions of "the backers of the boycott" on the Superferry. Since I started boycottsuperferry.org and spent several thousand dollars of my own money on this cause, I'd like to state my true intent, and it's in the subhead of my site: "Holding Reverence of Life and Stewardship of this Land."
My involvement in this cause has been 100 percent altruistic. My own business would financially benefit from Superferry, yet I hold for it being an environmentally responsible ship truly caring of its Kauaian impacts. I've bitten the bullet knowing that my personal convenience is outweighed by the generations of damage that boat can do without protective restrictions in place.
I don't have a secret deal with Superferry competitors, a vendetta, or am I anti-O'ahu. I have what I believe is a Hawaiian heart in a Caucasian body. I'm willing to be patient, to do an EIS right for everyone, at the expense of my personal convenience, or a nostalgic wish to ride the waves at someone else's future cost.
John Cragg
Anahola
Wading through the junk science
(By Pete Antonson)
I suppose John Cragg, who also writes aka John Tyler, would like us to thank him for his sacrifices and altruism in fighting the evil Superferry (TGI Forum, yesterday).
I'm not sure how someone whose business is teaching swimming in Los Angeles half the year would financially benefit from the Superferry; but, we'll take his word for it. It is more important to examine how his efforts have blessed those of us who "Live Kaua'i" all year long.
His Web site is basically unchanged since a year ago. Nothing updated or reexamined except the addition of baseless speculation about the Superferry being a military conspiracy from start to finish.
What his gift to us has been is cherrypicked junk science and hysterical imagination based on poorly connected events in other parts of the world.
We can thank goodness that people we rely on finish graduate school and learn how to discern real science from the garbage out there.
As for me, I say, "John, no thank you."
Pete Antonson
Wailua
Friends,
I don't live and teach swim lessons in Los Angeles half the year, I live on Kauai 10 1/2 months each year, only 6 weeks in LA for swim school hiring. The business I run that would be benefited by Superferry is my sister company, "John Tyler's Aloha CPR training", not my LA swim school as he writes. Yes, my CPR biz travel to O'ahu and Maui would be helped by a responsible HSF.
To call the website's listing of Superferry impacts, (based in tandem with Rich Hoeppner's superferryimpact.com site) hysterical, baseless speculation, military conspiracy, and "junk science" is a smear of what made this a statewide movement in the first place.
Lastly to say someone who's finished graduate school (I believe he refers to himself) discerns fact science from fiction...he doesn't realize I have a Master's degree as well, mine in psychology.
This type of writing just seems to be a microcosm here on Kaua'i of what goes for attack mode of half-cocked politics on the mainland. This is a dirty type of game for some...how to respond? I wish this man had simply written me an email or given a phone call to straighten his understanding of me.
Any suggestions?
Feel free to drop me an email:
mysticseaswimmer@...
or call. 635-7062
*peat and freinds on TGI talk where they ban the mild mannered elderly woman who is no threat. here, peat is at his snarkiest best*(KSSTAFF*.
read on,
people
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Pete Antonson
07/25/2013 6:48am
Of course we know that Martin Mills
didn't talk to anyone of the kind. That's a positively ancient and
hackneyed vehicle for making a point. Things just get worse as we get
lost in how 3 questions lead to 3 questions; but, they really don't and
they certainly didn't lead to any clear point being made in the last
third of the LTE.
This is an embarrassment by someone who might be on the same side as me (I'm not completely sure) regarding increasing gun control. This is the kind of support that drives you crazy.
One possible explanation is that Mills is probably the same Martin Mills who was a big time grower in the 80's and 90's and was caught with just under 500 plants after Iniki. Maybe all that really was just for personal consumption.
This is an embarrassment by someone who might be on the same side as me (I'm not completely sure) regarding increasing gun control. This is the kind of support that drives you crazy.
One possible explanation is that Mills is probably the same Martin Mills who was a big time grower in the 80's and 90's and was caught with just under 500 plants after Iniki. Maybe all that really was just for personal consumption.
wheeulz
07/25/2013 7:21am
Mr. Mills' LTE needed to come with Cliff Notes.
07/25/2013 10:14am
Glad I wasn't the only one to finish that letter with glassy eyes and a "Duh????"
07/25/2013 10:19am
Wowzers...just took a look at BJ's Wordpress blog. Incredible, but not surprising.
Michael Mann
07/25/2013 12:58pm
Bettejo was just driven away from
here. Now people are going to start talking about her behind her back,
when she can't be here to defend herself? Does that seem appropriate?
She has a right to discuss what happened to her in HER blog. I would even dare to suggest that if you wanted to comment on her statements, she would NOT preclude you from doing so on HER site.
Since Bettejo was banned from being here, the ADULT thing to do would be to not discuss her here. It's unseemly.
She has a right to discuss what happened to her in HER blog. I would even dare to suggest that if you wanted to comment on her statements, she would NOT preclude you from doing so on HER site.
Since Bettejo was banned from being here, the ADULT thing to do would be to not discuss her here. It's unseemly.
wheeulz
07/25/2013 1:43pm
Agreed.
There is, however, something I am going to get on the record for the possible interest of those who've been around a long time, and remember how She Who Has Been Banned (SWHBB) always lumped me into the enemy camp when she went on her anti-religion rants.
Sometime in the next week or so, I will take the time to sit and spell it out, as I said, for-the-record. And then I will not mention the name of SWHBB again.
There is, however, something I am going to get on the record for the possible interest of those who've been around a long time, and remember how She Who Has Been Banned (SWHBB) always lumped me into the enemy camp when she went on her anti-religion rants.
Sometime in the next week or so, I will take the time to sit and spell it out, as I said, for-the-record. And then I will not mention the name of SWHBB again.
07/25/2013 4:42pm
She was not "driven away" from here
by me, as I chose to abstain (well, almost entirely) from that
discussion. To say that it's not adult to make a closing mention
regarding her reactions is not...well..adult, either, imho.
Anyway...I shall not mention her again...unless it appears to be a reasonable response to someone else's input, or in response to some other public discussion.
Anyway...I shall not mention her again...unless it appears to be a reasonable response to someone else's input, or in response to some other public discussion.
Michael Mann
07/26/2013 12:14am
"To say that it's not adult to make a closing mention regarding her reactions is not...well..adult, either, imho."
Closure occurred when Steven formally announced that she had been banned. There is nothing more to say HERE on that topic or on her.
Finito.
Done.
If there is a concern about Bettejo bad-mounthing people she feels wronged her in some way, that can be addressed in PRIVATE communications with those people. That is the appropriate course of action. It does not need to be broadcast to everyone here. Part of the "offense" Bettejo was accused of was making the site about herself. Now that she has been removed, to follow that up with comments that once again make the site about her seems very worthy of admonition, IMHO.
I am asking for a higher standard of behavior. A HIGHER standard.
Closure occurred when Steven formally announced that she had been banned. There is nothing more to say HERE on that topic or on her.
Finito.
Done.
If there is a concern about Bettejo bad-mounthing people she feels wronged her in some way, that can be addressed in PRIVATE communications with those people. That is the appropriate course of action. It does not need to be broadcast to everyone here. Part of the "offense" Bettejo was accused of was making the site about herself. Now that she has been removed, to follow that up with comments that once again make the site about her seems very worthy of admonition, IMHO.
I am asking for a higher standard of behavior. A HIGHER standard.
Pete Antonson
07/25/2013 5:20pm
While I agree with the spirit of MM's
comment, I disagree with the application. Elaine's remark today was
more of an acknowledgement of the string I initiated yesterday. I
believe my warning that one of us had been cyber attacked and
LTEreader's adding of information was a legitimate sharing rather than
an episode of "talking behind the back," when viewed in context. The
fact that someone is gunning for retribution is always important to know
on a small island.
However, in the spirit of MM's comment, we should guard against going to the place he warns against.
However, in the spirit of MM's comment, we should guard against going to the place he warns against.
wheeulz
07/25/2013 5:39pm
If I decide to tell my "story," it
will be about Me ... and SWHBB will be mentioned only minimally. I
suspect Studier is still out there reading, and I want to get a couple
of things between us.
wheeulz
07/25/2013 5:42pm
* get a couple of things straight between us *
Pete Antonson
07/26/2013 1:05am
"Let's get something straight between
us" is an old double entendre pickup line. If it wasn't in a Woody
Allen movie; it should have been!
I'm almost certain you didn't mean it that way!
I'm almost certain you didn't mean it that way!
wheeulz
07/26/2013 12:01pm
You are correct.
wheeulz
07/25/2013 6:23pm
Pete, I've never bothered with Facebook, but I'm curious about something.
If someone wants to get ugly with you on your FB page, as you told us someone did to you yesterday, does that someone have to be someone you earlier made a "Friend"? Or could anyone with a FB account burn you?
If someone wants to get ugly with you on your FB page, as you told us someone did to you yesterday, does that someone have to be someone you earlier made a "Friend"? Or could anyone with a FB account burn you?
Pete Antonson
07/25/2013 6:42pm
Depends on your privacy settings.
I've been on for three years without any. I don't think this is the
norm. Now I have one setting; a specific block.
07/25/2013 7:03pm
You have to make your privacy
settings so that only friends can view/connect with you. You can
"unfriend" someone, and/or you can block them from even looking at your
basic FB page or communicating with you. I had to do that in this
instance...only the second time in five years I've found it necessary.
wheeulz
07/25/2013 7:07pm
Elaine, are you saying that the someone who tried to burn Pete on his FB page did the same thing to you?
07/26/2013 7:24pm
Yup, Whee...that's what happened. I
think it's interesting that Mann's exhortation to adopt a "higher
standard" resulted in his comments to me on another thread re changing
the 2491 venue.
I don't need that. It's the same sort of thing that he purports to decry. Have fun, guys. I've got more productive things to do.
I don't need that. It's the same sort of thing that he purports to decry. Have fun, guys. I've got more productive things to do.
wheeulz
07/25/2013 6:32pm
Fascinating item for the Zimmerman'o'philes:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/25/justice/zimmerman-juror-b29-interview/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Juror says, "You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," she said. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."
That, of course, is exactly what a juror is supposed to do.
The standard of proof in a civil suit, of course, is much lower than that for a criminal trial ... and I'm guessing 90 percent of America wants that to happen.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/25/justice/zimmerman-juror-b29-interview/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Juror says, "You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," she said. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."
That, of course, is exactly what a juror is supposed to do.
The standard of proof in a civil suit, of course, is much lower than that for a criminal trial ... and I'm guessing 90 percent of America wants that to happen.
Pete Antonson
07/25/2013 7:59pm
The newest Zimmerman juror to come
forward did add some interest and perspective. Jurors statements are
another thing to adjust to in the modern age; didn't use to happen.
I was interested; but, a bit repulsed by one of the OJ jurors coming on CNN after the Zimmerman verdict and still proclaiming they did the right thing. In his case, he cited the reduced amount of OJ's blood sample after transport and that "Something must have been done with it!" This was completely addressed during trial and since.
I've read Marcia Clark's, Vincent Bugliosi's, Jeffrey Toobin's, Dominick Dunne's and Robert Shapiro's books on the OJ trial. There is no question whatsoever in my mind that he did it. The debate continues as to who, or what, was most responsible for the result.
IMO, it was Judge Ito being dazzled by celebrity. He made countless rulings against legal tradition that favored the defense team and appeared more concerned with how legal requests would make him look than how they would affect the trial. Ito was clearly not up to the task. He's still on the Bench in LA.
I was interested; but, a bit repulsed by one of the OJ jurors coming on CNN after the Zimmerman verdict and still proclaiming they did the right thing. In his case, he cited the reduced amount of OJ's blood sample after transport and that "Something must have been done with it!" This was completely addressed during trial and since.
I've read Marcia Clark's, Vincent Bugliosi's, Jeffrey Toobin's, Dominick Dunne's and Robert Shapiro's books on the OJ trial. There is no question whatsoever in my mind that he did it. The debate continues as to who, or what, was most responsible for the result.
IMO, it was Judge Ito being dazzled by celebrity. He made countless rulings against legal tradition that favored the defense team and appeared more concerned with how legal requests would make him look than how they would affect the trial. Ito was clearly not up to the task. He's still on the Bench in LA.
wheeulz
07/25/2013 8:50pm
"The debate continues as to who, or
what, was most responsible for the result. IMO, it was Judge Ito being
dazzled by celebrity."
I've always gone with the Lead Detective Mark Fuhrmann. When F. Lee Bailey asked Fuhrmann repeatedly if he had ever used the N-word, that fool sat there and repeatedly said No. He should have known that the only reason Bailey was asking that set-up question was that he had witnesses in his pocket ready to testify that Fuhrmann had indeed used the word.
And of course when that came to pass, the jurors could rightly conclude that Fuhrmann was a liar ... and there went the chief prosecution witness' testimony ... and there went the trial.
I think O. J. was utterly guilty; unfortunately the police tried to frame a guilty man ... and lost the case because of it.
I've always gone with the Lead Detective Mark Fuhrmann. When F. Lee Bailey asked Fuhrmann repeatedly if he had ever used the N-word, that fool sat there and repeatedly said No. He should have known that the only reason Bailey was asking that set-up question was that he had witnesses in his pocket ready to testify that Fuhrmann had indeed used the word.
And of course when that came to pass, the jurors could rightly conclude that Fuhrmann was a liar ... and there went the chief prosecution witness' testimony ... and there went the trial.
I think O. J. was utterly guilty; unfortunately the police tried to frame a guilty man ... and lost the case because of it.
LTEreader
07/25/2013 8:20pm
I had to peek. Pete, your wife is
very pretty...you look so happy! And the pics of the Philippines are
very similar to Kauai. Looks like retirement there is working well for
you.
And yes, my comment about BJs blog was NOT a case of simply "talking about her behind her back", but rather sharing information, so that everyone is aware they're being trashed elsewhere online.
And yes, my comment about BJs blog was NOT a case of simply "talking about her behind her back", but rather sharing information, so that everyone is aware they're being trashed elsewhere online.
Pete Antonson
07/26/2013 12:04am
Thank you. The difference with Kauai
is those places in the pictures, that are very similar, are an hour
away; or in the case of Boracay Island where there's a family vacation
house; a couple hours flight away.
With Emma teaching at the University in Manila and getting ready to take the Bar, we need to be less than an hour from downtown.
This will change in a couple years. I hope to be right on the beach, of course...we'll see. I will at least be minutes from the beach and trails; just like on Kauai.
With Emma teaching at the University in Manila and getting ready to take the Bar, we need to be less than an hour from downtown.
This will change in a couple years. I hope to be right on the beach, of course...we'll see. I will at least be minutes from the beach and trails; just like on Kauai.
billyjoebob
07/25/2013 9:47pm
Another day comes to an end......." As the Island turns "........
Kind of like one big happy dysfunctional family. :)
Kind of like one big happy dysfunctional family. :)
Pete Antonson
07/26/2013 1:14am
In a few more years it will turn into: Old & Restless, General Hospital, and Guiding Light...........just saying!
and that's not all, here is the real smoking gun. it seems that "Pete Antonson", has three aliases, and lots of addresses, and he also lives in another country as well.
SO, what we have here, is a serial Snarkist, ranter, rager, and expose guy, who also has aliases and lives in another country, but focuses most of his energy on reaming the residents of the island he occasionally comes back to to clean the bathroom in the house,k I guess. We really don't know why Peat comes back here hand frankly we don't care. Bottom line is, he is a mainlander, not from here, and is a snowbird. And he is a major pain in the ass.
So, here are some more of who and what Pete is.
Again, we want to say that this is just us, looking for a name.
We aren't out to defame anyone. If you having 3 names is a "defamation", we think that's not even close buddy.
You want to tell us all about it, you are welcome to post on here, and give your side of it. But FFS, *that's For Fucks Sake*, why you gotta use fake names?
Be yourself. Enjoy being the Sarky rager you are. We love it!
Please, keep posting Pete Tonedeafone. OR whatever your name is and whatever you do.
and that's not all, here is the real smoking gun. it seems that "Pete Antonson", has three aliases, and lots of addresses, and he also lives in another country as well.
SO, what we have here, is a serial Snarkist, ranter, rager, and expose guy, who also has aliases and lives in another country, but focuses most of his energy on reaming the residents of the island he occasionally comes back to to clean the bathroom in the house,k I guess. We really don't know why Peat comes back here hand frankly we don't care. Bottom line is, he is a mainlander, not from here, and is a snowbird. And he is a major pain in the ass.
So, here are some more of who and what Pete is.
Again, we want to say that this is just us, looking for a name.
We aren't out to defame anyone. If you having 3 names is a "defamation", we think that's not even close buddy.
You want to tell us all about it, you are welcome to post on here, and give your side of it. But FFS, *that's For Fucks Sake*, why you gotta use fake names?
Be yourself. Enjoy being the Sarky rager you are. We love it!
Please, keep posting Pete Tonedeafone. OR whatever your name is and whatever you do.
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OK, Snarkists here are the rules. You need to show your real name. Or we just ban you. We don't do anon posting here. So you need to have a legit ID.Don't like it, too bad. We don't moderate here. We just simply ban you. All you can do, is take a chance, and see if your post survives to make it onto the blog. But life is a gamble, isn't it? Kinda like when you posted your first snarky comment, kinda gave you a rush, huh? Just think of this in the same way.
Happy Snarkin!